I’m watching his livestream now
54m
RG is still quite good and entertaining. Dropping truth bombs and still an amazing presenter….
Maybe we just need to recognize he’s really good at presenting, but a bit limited to apply it in his own life..
That doesn’t negate his entertainment and educational value.
oh… maybe he uses this role of teacher mode, helps him self regulate and escape his inner critic?
….. wait….. maybe he’s stealing from my recent switch to start calling out ignorance shields….. and my I’m not responsible for your stupidity YT short & Instagram release?
hmm.. this is so entertaining….. but yah… I can sorta see how it might be helping him self regulate… getting into this rabbit hole focused rant on a certain theme.. an outlet for him to channel his aggression….
Because ultimately I think it might just end up being a full on rant.. with very limited precision on what actual specifically to do next…. it’s getting people to second guess themselves, and possibly can break inertia… but this looping around the theme, could be a bit excessive…..
this is the problem of livestreaming…. you’re talking to a camera… so it rewards just going on and on and on….. not having someone to occasionally check in with…. to bounce off of… then it’s just this rhyming and flow of excess, looping on a theme…. and just hammering it over and over again….
it is somewhat hypnotic.. and it’s entertaining… so why not…
but it’s still somewhat just sugary dopamine hit.. even if he’s critiquing and calling out that as part of the talk….
ok… finished the livestream… and I sorta see the rabbit hole hypnotic effect… it’s entertaining and it feels real or hyper-real in some ways…. but then it’s totally fragmented from the Q&A and other sectors…. it’s like he has an amazing way of compartmentalizing different roles he plays… or memories or something…
It’s different from autistic hard categories, but similar in the way…. that different rabbit holes or alternate realities hold information and clarity… but they don’t link with other rabbit holes….
is this rabbit hole similar to self-states or DID type of alters and parts?? Possibly… though the vortex nature seems different than identity/narrative based parts or selves…. maybe it’s like a lack of self instead of self states or sub-selves….
Maybe someone needs to map out the complex land of dissociation??? there might be ways to capture and contain lots of experience in a dissociative space…. rabbit hole in nature…. and then when one dives into another rabbit hole, it’s like changing the TV channel into a totally different show…. then if you want to go back to that knowledge or sub experience… just change it back to the prior channel??
In this sense it might be like DID but a bit more complex…. and the bigger question is who’s controlling the remote control? Likely related to mood states and external environment…
so imagine if you’re living with memory organization based on rabbit holes that can be like channel surfing with a remote control… but your environment and other people are the ones with the remote control, clicking buttons….
or….. it’s very easy for you to give up the remote control to others.. or lose touch with it….
that might create a bit of paranoia and avoidant type of mindset… when one is helpless to others taking over your remote control.???? and your memory gets switched into new channels with new rabbit holes?
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Towards the end starting 45m49s there’s a little back and forth with Sally Greenhouse who corrects RG about DBT and Judy Herman, that might be worth a rewatch along with tracking her comments in the live chat box… to both see how she responds to RG in the comments, along with others in the chat box to her…. and also how RG responds to corrections supposedly from someone who both knows Judith Herman & Pete Walker….
There is a Sally Greenhouse who lives near Harvard and has some performing arts pieces that come up in google search…
https://www.gazettenet.com/Laughter-as-remedy-to-trauma-Sally-Greenhouse-video-charts-her-recovery-from-a-broken-neck-29840192
some of her comments:
Sally Greenhouse
- iF SOMEONE IS NON FUNCTIONAL ENOUGH TO NEED dbt, AND THEY REALLY DO HAVE TO BE NON FUNCTIONAL THEY CAN FIND THAT AT COMMUNITY MENTAL HEALTH CENTERS AT LOW COST, COVERED BY MEDICAID.
- DBT is run in groups and you use a workbook. It is definitely not the therapy that Grannon is availing himself of, to be sure.
- DBT is for treatment resistant borderlines.
- I’m listening to you quoting mostly Fredu for months. and i kknow pete Walker.
- Pete Walker does psychodynamic therapy.
- If you are doing DBT, that would mean you are non functional and that is one of the markers of bordline treatment resistant people who do join DBT groups.
- DBT is not for CPTSD. Judy Miller never conducted DBT groups.
- Judy HERMAN
- it was not develo0ed for CPTSD
- JUDY HERMAN. SORRY. JUDY HERMAN
- ’nO, SHE’S AT hARVARD
- I KNOW HER
- mY FIELD WAS psychoanalytic theaopry at harvard
- Some of us who listen to you do have grqduate training.
- But I am not at Harvard now. i tauught psychoanalyticx theory and practice there
- i’m no longer pro-psychodynamic therapy. I am a skeptic. Judy herman was a good researcher but not a good therapist
- Therapy, psychodynamic therapy, costs a lot of $$$. It is not accessable ot most.
- In my expereince many psychodynamic therapists throught my career are narcissists
Her comments seem accurate, typos probably mean she’s typing on a cell phone and matches the age of the real Sally Greenhouse….
And Judith Herman would likely be known as Judy when teaching…. and fairly accessible and known, because the psychology research world isn’t that big. And her C-PTSD paper really is just a non paper that just relabeled BPD traits, but it’s been glamorized by Pete Walker and turned into this new non clinical pointer that isn’t recognized by the DSM. It’s likely just become it’s own cult following.
A theory just thrown out by a psychology professor, who might not even be very good at research or as a therapist…. just like Brene Brown has owned she only does research, but people project therapy skills and magical qualities onto book authors. Or research paper writers…. Like the guy who came up with micro-aggressions, isn’t notable on much anything else, and the paper was rather flimsy theory, but it’s become foundational in the SJW world.
Sally’s throw in that DBT is for treatment resistant borderlines, that sounds accurate… DBT’s model is really boring and dull, one other commenter called it Dialectical Behavioral TRAINING, which is the feel of a lot of the worksheets and workbook and exercises. RG just throwing around DBT as some magical fix for BPD seems to be copying what Sam said, but probably an oversimplification…. DBT is most well known BPD therapy, but Transference therapy, mentalization based therapy, schema therapy, ISTDP, TEAM-CBT and some others are known to be effective with BPD.
Though it might not just be the therapy that’s the issue, having a therapist that can work with transference, projections, and what not.. that’s also very important. But for scientific studies, the more you can take the therapist’s skill out, the more statistical proof you can use to sell it as evidenced based therapy…
So.. yes DBT run as groups with workbook to brainwash basic social skills and manualized policing and correcting of one’s thoughts and emotional mood swings… that would be measurably effective…