It might be interesting to revisit 30 day challenge thread around January 29th 2022, Day 25th exercise was creating a new self of which RG even admitted that it was a Tulpa thought form, actively encouraging members to summon entities/demons or essentially a poltergeist.
https://www.visceralgravitas.com/d/55-richard-grannons-30-day-challenge-summoning-the-self-teasers/180
Deef Stumbled upon this from a quora question… it feels like there’s some accuracy in here.. but it could also be easily argued it’s fear mongering… but come on… creating thought forms that take over and erase your old self???
Shouldn’t there be some worry diving into this sort of territory?
seems like this is reddit thread is an origin of the visual
Ergo this is getting dangerously close to consciously selling your soul to the devil, asking for a spirit to come in to help erase and help you give up your soul. The selling point is more control at first, that feeds one’s grandiosity and addiction to comfort. But the trap is that these thoughtforms take on a life of their own, and also end up feeding off your fear, taking over your body to act out stupid shit that increases fear, so this self-created entity can feed off you.
The tables slowly get turned, you thought you were the master of the thought form, then you become the slave.
So this my public post in response to that exercise:
Deef Just posted this, possibly higher chance of getting deleted?? or maybe I’ll also get kicked out?
and the most vicious reply was from Jo, who actively policed people who weren’t good slaves to RG’s group think:
Deef this is my attempt, though she still might find a way to slime back. Which would still be evidence that RG’s stuff is enabling bad actors to become bigger assholes.
I was gonna be a lot harsher, but I don’t know how far I can go with the moderators. Though it’s almost over so what else do I have to lose?
Moderation was generally totally absent, giving free reign to Jo to love bomb and offer tons of empty validation to capture attention and feel less alone with her self-gaslighting. But also spew her venom towards any free thinkers or alternative perspectives.
Deef Actually it was more challenging to fight back in that forum, as I don’t know the group norms nor do I trust the moderators. While I’m guessing she’s used to bullying others around, and she’s got a wide range of counter attacks or justifications if she were to get corrected or silenced.
It might be useful to just let it linger and then see that nothing happens or whatever happens isn’t as bad as my on alert nerves are sorta searching out for.
Community and environment is where healing can happen, but it can also enable repetition compulsion or be environments where parasites and bullies are preying on naive innocents, to feed off their life force. Though it’s not the parasites that are the main problem, it’s more so the principles and trust in the community that matters. Is there leadership, are there group norms, is there room for people to fight for themselves. Or is there continued enabling through family secrecy, silence & judgments.
Fighting people possessed by thought forms, or just natural parasites, is a lose battle in a community absent principles and leadership. They might sense danger in contrary voices, the truth might get out; that’s threatening to their supply of feeding off fear.
Deef Here is her slime back, digs in deeper with more cognitive dissonance and side jabs:
Plays innocent while stabbing judgment …. quite malicious…
I thought of pointing out her tactics or arguing content, but that’s jumping into her sandbox…
So I tried some psychologizing of her and then re-direct to RG...
The comment thread continues a bit more:
Deef got this email notification…. Someone else is jumping into Jo’s bullying comments and standing up to her!! yayy
and I wonder if RG’s recent revisit to the bombarding by borderlines video clip might’ve been also related to me sharing that video clip in my reply to Jo?
So he’s getting to see how to stand up to abusive empath/BPD’s, instead of just blocking, erasing or running away…
Still too early to be celebrating though…. I’m sure she can still regroup and find another way to attack…
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holy moly… she replied.. a partial admission of fault???
It might be. almost feels like a schizoid type of admission, that’s about all you’ll ever get.
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But… if Jo is on a mission, and her guru is under threat, full force venom attack is totally allowed, and it’s just a matter of time….
Deef Trying to unwind and break out of the 30dc pattern…. but get sucked back in with Jo’s side attacks…
of which that Monday post I don’t see any notification in my email about it… how’d she slip that positive image protection post in there… but notice it’s only an apology for commenting, no ownership of the content of what she wrote.
I think I caught her with trying to get the last word in. But who knows?
Deef holy moly… she replied.. a partial admission of fault???
here’s the link to prior back and forth from 4 days ago… you can’t really win with these types….
possibly a schizoid defense. they’re just relentless.
She regresses to disgust and extreme moral judgments slung at me, and that might be their final defense and attack. If disgust doesn’t land, they got nothing else to escalate about.
BUT…. following the sandbox and back and forth drama is exciting… however… what was the trigger that brought on her hatred powered venomous attack???? that’s where the hidden gift often lies… what was so threatening that caught her attention and necessitated attack????
her initial policing:
maybe her intuition and insinuation was right??? Was I getting close to promoting a higher path that makes the work of overcoming codependence unnecessary??
That seems to be what RG is saying with this forward focused new 30dc, not living backwards and moving towards a target, has magically shifted his abilities to set boundaries and it’s so much less work than journaling, emotional literacy, boundaries, etc. etc..
and back to the text of my Day 25 post:
I think that life is meant to be lived forwards. Learning from & honoring the past, engaged in the present & facing the future. That seems to be the adaptive natural way of navigating experience, space & time. #VG
But life can also be lived backwards. Doing post-hoc rationalizations like reverse engineering past mistakes, creating a future structure & new self that seems like it’s facing forward but it’s actually in a position of avoidance.
The devil is in the details! LIVED backwards = DEVIL
It’s hard to notice what’s hidden in the details, especially if one is emotionally dysregulated, fighting off flashbacks, or urgently seeking a dream outcome..
“I no longer listen to what people say, I just watch what they do. Behavior never lies.” — Winston Churchill
But… I’ll entertain this idea of tulpas and ponder it a bit more. Though I’d rather use other thought-forms like servitors, which I can hire someone else to create for me, and just assign a single gig with a specific time limit.
I wouldn’t trust myself to create a thought form that would know my best interests. There’s also the risk it might rebel, get trapped in time or get taken over by a future abuser or better spell caster.
Principles are pretty boring, easy to memorize, but hard as heck to live out, and apply under live fire. PLUS when you try to live it, society, colonization, and enabling abusers will actively seek you out, and try to destroy your will. Your success and healing is an active threat to their shared fantasy. This is when people’s inner demons get triggered, and will pull you down back into the repetition compulsion dance. And many times those people attacking you, think they’re genuinely helping you. It’s a total mind fuck. This land of devil worship by people who are totally oblivious that’s what their lifestyle and behaviors are showing.
I revisited the Day 25 thread and did a full screen capture of the post with all the comments. All of the posts are still archived there but you have to actively search to find the links, as the indexes to forum threads are all deleted.
here’s link to the image, I’m not gonna embed it cuz it’s super long.
