The Archons, Spiritual Warfare & Soul Murder

Deef

This thread to explore spiritual metaphors in the healing journey.

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The Demons had infiltrated heaven, so we’d have to go and fight them

and you could kill them with words but you had to say a magic spell in Arabic

you see a demon it’s killing people and you go “ba ba da ba” and it goes whoom
and it hits them and crushes them and then they’re gone

It was very very very involving and i didn’t just dream it, it was like an acid trip, all of it was real to me

Deef

Watched a recent interview of Jordan Peterson on Tim Ferris’ podcast today. This excerpt caught my attention, as it’s a spontaneous utterance, that linked to the story of Sophia, the mother of all Archons.

It’s man against nature and we triumph as the hero, and if it isn’t correct, then

we’re an evolutionary abortion.

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My take is that Jordan Peterson does get the pointers of Love & Truth right,
but the Man against Nature, that might be the deception of western civilization and mis-interpretation or obsession over the protagonist hero in the hero’s journey.
There is no conquering nature in the way of imposing power upon, all successes are only temporary, as nature and chaos always comes back. It’s part of the path, but the resurrection, rebirth, and re-engaging onto next journey; that’s the bigger picture, and full cycle.

I agree with him on the necessity of telling the truth to keep one’s own world and the collective world from falling apart into delusion.

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Beware of Unearned Wisdom - Carl Jung

Possibly a warning to society about Archons? Knowledge without the experience, is often a trap, curse, noise, disconnect from your true nature.
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bit more Sophia framework from wikipedia:

the crisis occurs as a result of Sophia trying to emanate without her syzygy,
because she tries to breach the barrier between herself and the unknowable Bythos.
After cataclysmically falling from the Pleroma, Sophia’s fear and anguish of losing her life (just as she lost the light of the One) causes confusion and longing to return to it.
Because of these longings, matter (Greek: hylē, ὕλη) and soul (Greek: psychē, ψυχή) accidentally come into existence.
The creation of the Demiurge (also known as Yaldabaoth, “Son of Chaos”) is also a mistake made during this exile.
The Demiurge proceeds to create the physical world in which we live, ignorant of Sophia, who nevertheless manages to infuse some spiritual spark or pneuma into his creation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophia_(Gnosticism)#Gnostic_mythos

Carl Jung linked the figure of Sophia to the highest archetype of the anima in depth psychology.
The archetypal fall and recovery of Sophia is additionally linked (to a varying degree) to many different myths and stories (see damsel in distress).

The transition from immaterial to material, from noumenal to sensible, is created by a flaw, passion, or sin in an Aeon.
According to Basilides, it is a flaw in the last sonship; according to others the sin of the Great Archon, or Aeon-Creator, of the Universe; according to others
it is the passion of the female Aeon Sophia, who emanates without her partner Aeon,
resulting in the Demiurge (Greek Δημιουργός), a creature that should never have been.

This creature does not belong to Pleroma, and the One emanates two savior Aeons, Christ and the Holy Spirit, to save humanity from the Demiurge. Christ then took a human form (Jesus), to teach humanity how to achieve Gnosis.

The ultimate end of all Gnosis is metanoia (Greek μετάνοια), which is an understanding of the world and higher reality and the knowledge that brings to absolve one of fear of material existence, paving the way to living and experiencing life to its fullest before the soul returns to Pleroma.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeon_(Gnosticism)

In Valentinianism, Sophia always stands absolutely at the center of the system, and in some sense she seems to represent the supreme female principle.

Sophia is the youngest of the Aeons. Observing the multitude of Aeons and the power of begetting them, she hurries back into the depth of the Father, and seeks to emulate him by producing offspring without conjugal intercourse, but only projects an abortion, a formless substance.
Upon this she is cast out of Pleroma and into the primal sub-stratum of matter.
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Sophia Achamoth, becomes the heroine of the rest of the drama. This fallen Sophia becomes a world creative power. Sophia Achamoth, or “Lower Wisdom”, the daughter of “Higher Wisdom”, becomes the mother of the Demiurge, identified with the God of the Old Testament.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentinianism#Sophia

Deef

Tuesday

feels a bit like a Monday…. and gotta catch up to change to May…. the weather has shifted chillier trend, but just finished breakfast and reading the newspaper in the reorganized garage station with the 2 additional rolling tables 6′….

The fresher air and lack a bit more windows makes it feel a bit different than inside…. But I’m still sorta trying to get some sort of schedule and routine for the day and week….

Yesterday was a bit of a blur with the full day ISTDP workshop, and then looked at a 2005 Toyota Sienna right after…. pretty decent option with what seemed to be family car and kept up with maintenance BUT does have an issue with vibration at 65mph…. clean title history without any accidents… and I sent him an offer last night, along with increase today.. but no answer back…. facebook messenger is a bit annoying to coordinate with…. I suppose I was a bit slower to decide this time, as I was a bit too impulsive with the 2010 caravan with likely transmission issues…

I mailed out deposit check for the basement bedroom job, and want to keep up with some of the process, to see how they plan to get it done…. and I wonder if I should get plumbing repairs done in the mean time, upgrading the main shut off valve with a ball valve and repairing a really slow leak in a copper 90 elbow…

There’s a new hospice case that’s more traditional home visit… he’s likely bedridden with a daughter that’s handling his care all on her own… with some aides helping out currently cuz he just got out of outpatient….. and then there’s a recent new case with transports; along with a floating new case for visits to talk, of lady with brain cancer….

ohh…. May has mother’s day, along with mom’s birthday and my 2nd brother’s wife Carol’s birthday… usually all 3 of those get combined…… but this year has addition of Carol’s parents arriving from Shanghai on Thursday…..
no specifics on what’s the plan after they arrive….. but Carol’s birthday is Sunday May 7th…

Oh…. my other sister in law… DJ’s wife Rachelle.. her birthday is on the 19th…. things are a bit quiet on that recent front.. in regards to her parents who got into that car accident, with her dad now in assisted living, and mom in hospice cuz she couldn’t cooperate with rehab… oh.. my mom said they were going on a trip back to Texas to celebrate anniversary 28 years, I think?

let’s see…. odds and ends……
PNC bank manager called a couple of times, I tried calling back late last week but didn’t connect… I suspect she’s wants to discuss the LLC account and that it’s just sitting there with too much capital, maybe there’s an option to get some interest on it?
Maybe need to do more yardwork and house maintenance or spring cleaning?
Should try to get some sort of more regular routine for fitness/movement, recreation, down time, etc…
more minivan shopping if this sienna falls through….. and also dispose of the 92 minivan… can get $400 from scrap, and then save money getting it off insurance…
Oh…. I haven’t gone on a walk or hike in over a week based on my calendar… though last week I had a few days to get the new tables and reorganizing stuff….

I guess, past few weeks have been a bit of a blur with minivan shopping, tables, schizoid exploration and angst channel battles, along with digesting past 2 zoom groups too… ohh… and right before that was funeral for Joan, I did get to see her corpse but we didn’t go along for the drive to the gravesite…. and before that was trying to recover from hosting auntie from Belgium… and prior to that was Joan’s death, with over a month of regular visits to see her in the hospital….

So… March and April have been a bit of a blur… Jan and Feb were start of a new year…. but with Joan’s IV and chemo treatments 2x a week. oh… and I turned 50 in the middle of that too…

Hmm… I suppose I have been in a bit of a time distortion….. I sorta forgot about a few weeks ago and a few months ago…. it all felt a bit like a big blur….. hmm……

oh…. start of 2023… I had goal of trying to read more regularly….. I finished Romo for January and tried a few books for Feb James Hollis book on the soul and Jordan Peterson’s 12 more rules, but didn’t get far with those… and now it’s 4 months in, and just 1 book?? I did revisit Master Key to Riches, but didn’t do a formal re-read…. and I did some revisits of other books.. but yah… doing some sort of more regular reading… would probably be a good habit… something to get away from too much digital…..

Oh… I forgot.. I did finish a 2nd book in January… that memoir of a Tiananmen square protester…

back to March… uhm hosting auntie… rental property bedroom estimates and eventual contract.. minivan shopping… meetups, and zoom group deep dives…. autistic terror… schizoid space… some garage and basement reorg…
I suppose it was a decently busy month…….

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and onto some digesting of recent zoom group and assessing fall out after discord banning….. oh I also did some exploration w/ Nameless Narcissist’s discord channel too….

re: Paranoid Transference

This still seems like a major key….. I see it’s links to anxiety and that as a universal and raw base emotion for human consciousness and sense of time……

But how to come to terms with paranoia….. what does it need? how to not just block it, ignore it, or transfer it onto others…. how can paranoia be adaptive??

on the flip side, it can fuel aggression and probably direct links to sadistic pleasure territory….. paranoia might also have links to soul torture territory?

What’s soul murder?? soul is probably linked to an innate drive to make meaning and sense out of things…. and schizoids that fall into resentment against the world… and then if they fall into folded inward resentment… it can lead to soul murder.. or soul suicide…. rejecting of one’s innate drive towards sense and connection to deepest levels of one’s soul that connects w/ ancestral lineage and all of your birth origins…..

Well.. if you want to reject something… reject your total existence… all the way down to deep soul lineage…..

what do you get when that happens…. uhm… nightmares and deep depression when you don’t use language gimmicks and other ways of fucking up with meaning making….

Granted…. can you blame a person for consciously choosing or falling into this path?? possibly some are just born with this destiny and karma? or they got infected by another person with this damned soul path?
Is that part of what child pedophiles might be doing…. feeding off a child’s innocence as an escape from their own tortured and lost soul…. but the price is that their disease infects the child sexual abuse into becoming a pedophile as an adult?

The sloppier less skilled pedophiles have to act out and get caught or live on the edges of society… while the more skillful or educated ones… choose helping professions to feed off victims and inner children of adults as substitutes…. continuing the pattern….

But…. what’s the adaptive use of this pattern for it to keep continuing…. and be part of society??

The gnostic view of creation and Sophia being the divine mother… probably offers more sense to this… or that’s just her lineage continuing….. as Jordan Peterson had a video commenting on people who DMT see aliens who are more real than real.. and if that’s true.. then the world’s creation was an abortion…..

Deef
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It’s man against nature and we triumph as the hero, and if it isn’t correct, then
we’re an evolutionary abortion.

Deef The present age must come to terms drastically with the facts as they are, with the absolute opposition that is not only tearing the world asunder politically but has planted a schism in the human heart.
We need to find our way back to the original, living spirit which, because of its ambivalence, is also a mediator and uniter of opposites, an idea that preoccupied the alchemists for many centuries.

If, as seems probable, the aeon of the fishes is ruled by the archetypal motif of the hostile brothers,
then the approach of the next Platonic month, namely Aquarius, will constellate the problem of the union of opposites.

It will then no longer be possible to write off evil as the mere privation of good; its real existence will have to be recognized.

This problem can be solved neither by philosophy, nor by economics, nor by politics,
but only by the individual human being, via his experience of the living spirit, whose fire descended upon Joachim, one of many, and, despite all contemporary misunderstandings, was handed onward into the future.
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Their insistence is, at bottom, the urge of the archetype to realize itself.
-Carl Jung; Aion; Pages 86-87.

Was @Pankaj recent rant against fish, a bit premature, what if the fish is talking about the age of pisces, and the tranformation to Aquarius??

Hostile brothers and union of hte opposites…. seems eerily close to pressure to consciousness of splitting….

and the recognition of evil as a real existence….. might also be linked to denial/splitting… rejection stance, and then opposites that fight each other… and a split that drives a schism in the human heart?

Deef Anima, she according to Jung and i’m paraphrasing
Squirts her poison cloud of illusion
so there’s this uh squid-like response to the threat
which is to cloud the environment with illusion

so you have this anima animus balance integration polarity and
here we have anima is saving animus with his sword so she picks up the sword the phallus
the well literally the penis that of the corpse and impregnates herself
with this thing we could also say there are elements here to the gnostic story of sophia
so once that’s happened a revival can occur a sort of a new consciousness is born
what’s the best way of reflecting a new consciousness?
you do it through the major lens through which humanity observes which is the eye
and i think it’s of great significance that the young god the new god is represented as a falcon

The cloud of illusion reminded me of wall of vagueness, or vagueness fog……
that’s countered by ‘the eye’, that’s symbolized by a falcon? Not sure what to do with that just now…

Maybe this falcon is symbolic of an eye in the sky, that could counter the paranoia formed due to the poison cloud of illusion… vagueness fog…. muck up meaning making… build up a cloud to block sense making and meaning?

this might be a bit of a stretch…..

but it was interesting to scan through the old Archons & spiritual warfare thread…. mostly from 2+ years ago….lol….
time loops around…. old themes get revisited and still hold lots of insights….

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ok… it’s noon.. and not sure what to do for the day… garage is getting a bit chilly..
maybe knock out some small things one at a time, and see where it goes….. will see….

Deef

Continuing on spiritual warfare angle… what if this arena is more real than life (consensus reality) itself??

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things are deeply mysterious

i mean rick strassmann terrified himself right out of the DMT research, because all his subjects came back and said

i went somewhere else and saw aliens, it wasn’t a dream,

it was way more real than any dream, in fact it was actually more real than life

Now starting to get downloads and connections on how to interact and fight at this other worldly level of spiritual warfare.
Insights from Jordan’s wife Tammy, after her spiritual rebirth facing and surviving cancer.

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This may be my first mature thought in my life,

My life isn’t about me. It’s about the service that I give to the people around me.

As far as I’m concerned, I died and came back to life. and spiritually I’ve been reborn.

I’m not playing God anymore.
I’m not going to be the person who says yes or no.

I’m the person that says, what can I do to help?

Could this be the way out? leveling up to become codependent with God, with fate?
What if codependence is a natural state of being human?

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This is a lifetime of learning, every little step you can take to give yourself up to the power that is there in your heart, the more peace you’ll find in your life.

Trying to offer what is right and not force what I want or what I think is going to be useful.
I have to see it manifest before I can take action.

God is in between the words.
So when you’re talking and you take a breath, that’s where God is.
That pause between your words and that’s where your intuition is

if you’re there for judgment, then it’s you taking control and pushing God out.
If you pause and wait for an opportunity to be helpful, then God is there.

I sense this is a pointer towards the path of virtue. Living in grace. The magic is between the words, in the gaps, in the breath. Also in building awareness to see what fate is manifesting in the moment, and aligning yourself with that movement.

Maybe it’s more a way of being, an attitude?
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It’s more about what you do, how you live, your presence of being.
It doesn’t really matter how much you understand, how much you know, what clever language you might say. Getting lost knowing, certainty, control, over-powering others, hoarding resources, safety, etc. All these socially normal pursuits, seems like it’s the path of the Archons.

Peregrin

Peregrin How to break one’s own reactive response to a perceived dangerous situation. Suppress any response for five seconds.

I just read the archons thread. Tammy and Mikhaila Peterson said it much better than i did:

Deef God is in between the words.
So when you’re talking and you take a breath, that’s where God is.
That pause between your words and that’s where your intuition is

if you’re there for judgment, then it’s you taking control and pushing God out.
If you pause and wait for an opportunity to be helpful, then God is there.

Is it possible for a person with severe BPD to learn not to push God out?
Not to reactively pass judgement.

Just like how you learn a three year old child to have patience and find the solution, instead of exploding in rage, despair, and frustration.

ICS

Deef

Deef Could this be the way out? leveling up to become codependent with God, with fate?
What if codependence is a natural state of being human?

As I am not an English native speaker…I probably interpret words sometimes very different…than how they are meant to be understood by people who use them in their native language.

For as far as I understand it up till now :the word is used to label people that have difficulties processing emotions and build up a healthy relationship with themselves and/ or others.

But when I look at the word leaving out all the information that circle around this word…and just look at how it is composed.
There is dependent….and…co.
All human beings alive depend on all there is that surrounds us. Without the whole of the ecological system we wouldn’t even exist. All other species alive, and that have lived before made the path for human beings.
But for some reason some people can’t see it that way. (probably trauma)…and so some human beings may believe that controlling and manipulating “nature” is the only way to reassure mankind to survive as a species.
Some have forgotten that we do depend on “nature” for our “nurture”.
And it goes further than having food to eat, wood to heat…
My body wouldn’t function well if my large intestine wasn’t colonized by a wide range of micro-organisms.
These micro-organisms help us to survive. The same is real for my skin.
At the same time these specific human microbiome is unique for each single person. And this population needs human beings to live.
So there is the co-depended part.
Humans depend also on each other to make sure the species will live on.
Each species strives for eternal life….but not per say at the expense of another species. I think experience of all the species that exist longer that humans calibrated them to maintain balance or regain an equilibrium after a major event…like earth quake or some other disaster.
As youngest of all the species we don’t have that much experience. But we are probably well equipped to catch up….our ancestors knew how….if not, I would not even be here to type….I doubt that the ultimate answer in catching up is technology.

Deef Maybe it’s more a way of being, an attitude?

And there it pops up again “being”
A human “being”.

Deef

Thy will be done, NOT my will

If Sophia the youngest Aeon (wisdom) made the world as an ‘evolutionary abortion’, skipping the union of yin/yang… skipping the pairs of aeon…

What’s the missing pair??

It’s Theletos meaning - perfection, willed, longed-for.

Is this the same energy of thy will vs my will? Or same territory as grace, fate, or destiny?

So if modern society is promoting lifestyle of claiming agency, cause, and control. It’s just continuing the same story as Sophia naively stepping away from pairing up in union with Theletos. So we’re all stuck in an endless cycle of trying to over-power fate, god’s will, thy will?

What if thinking hero’s journey as a destination is a trap?? That’s just repeating Sophia’s same mistake. Maybe instead, it’s just part of the process but it’s NOT the destination. We have to wrestle with fate and free-will, but to finish this cycle, it’s about a union and becoming in harmony with thy-will, and longing-for (heaven/reunion)…

Conquering only keeps us in the loop. leading to a life of endless suffering, toil, and separation from the divine.

Maybe a simpler framing of Sophia vs denser frameworks from wikipedia
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UsefulNotes/Gnosticism

The most distant aeon from the Monad, a female entity named Sophia (Greek for “wisdom”), fell into error.
Some versions say that she tried to emanate a universe without her male counterpart (Sometimes called Theletus, sometimes it was Jesus), others say that she tried to take on the mind of the source in its entirety.
Whatever the reason, she fell out of communion with the rest of the aeons and became trapped in the primordial material universe. Some say that Sophia was destroyed and her remnants would become human souls.
In any case, although she evokes the figure of Lucifer or a Fallen Angel in role, it’s firmly established that Sophia is not evil, neither in intention nor in actions, but rather a victim of herself who is now working for humanity’s good and her own atonement.

On the other hand, there is evil in the Gnostic universe. From the matter that solidified out of Sophia’s divine power, a false god (the “bad” one) was born, known as the Demiurge or Yaldabaoth.
The Demiurge then creates the physical universe, which is isolated from the higher dimensions above and elects himself as its ruler. He’s accompanied by a myriad of created servants called the Archons, which are identified as the angels and demons of the Old Testament. Some sects specify the archons are actually only six and are rulers of six celestial bodies, with the Demiurge being the seventh and ruling the Earth.

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Deef It’s Theletos meaning - perfection, willed, longed-for.

Deef What’s the missing pair??
It’s Theletos meaning - perfection, willed, longed-for.

“Sophia” didn’t make a mistake.
“Theletos” just didn’t do what he was supposed to do….To long for her….

Wisdom that you never longed for…is just knowledge….To reproduce knowledge…It is like chat gpt

Deef

Below is the juiciest excerpt from Grannon’s philosophy channel’s culture war video.

If you simply rename top-down codependency as Archon worship, doesn’t that make so much more sense?
Sophia and the Archons are the source of information & knowledge, but it’s also unearned wisdom, and knowledge without experience and exposure, so it’s empty knowing.

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codependency we are now entrained to love being given information from the top down

you tell me what to think,

i’m not doing my own research, but i’m a good vessel, i’m a good codependent cup,
you could put whatever you want into me, i’m not going to just trust thinking
thinking it’s painful, it brings me out in a rash, it feels all prickly and sweaty
look no, just you chop up my food for me and just shoot it directly into my mouth, that’s how i like it
this is the kind top-down codependency we must break this cycle

4 second Meme summary - looped 8x
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Codependency, Top Down You TELL ME what to think.

Reverse brainwashing, try to trigger a self-disgust reaction from the inside.

NYE

Deef So, Deef, can you give us the 10-second, pre-digested, synopsis of what Grannon is saying?

Deef

Har har… I see the joke…. but I’ll still take the bait…

with a repeat… (tactic covered in last Sat’s Reactive Abuse zoom meeting)

Not 10 seconds, pruned down to 4 seconds, but repeated 8x for emphasis and magic!

Deef 4 second Meme summary - looped 8x
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Codependency, Top Down You TELL ME what to think.

steveoscar

Deef If you simply rename top-down codependency as Archon worship, doesn’t that make so much more sense?
Sophia and the Archons are the source of information & knowledge, but it’s also unearned wisdom, and knowledge without experience and exposure, so it’s empty knowing.

Deef

Stumbled upon Ralph Waldo Emerson’s Essay on Self-Reliance from a reference by Matthew McConaughey during an interview about his life story, extensive past journaling, and soul searching promoting his memoir greenlights.

This essay has pointers that also could be used as pointers in the spiritual warfare against the Archons:

God will not have his work made manifest by cowards

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Society everywhere is in conspiracy against the manhood of every one of its members.
Society is a joint-stock company, in which the members agree, for the better securing of his bread to each shareholder, to surrender the liberty and culture of the eater.
The virtue in most request is conformity.
Self-reliance is its aversion.
It loves not realities and creators, but names and customs.

Whoso would be a man must be a nonconformist.
He who would gather immortal palms must not be hindered by the name of goodness, but must explore if it be goodness. Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind.

I am ashamed to think how easily we capitulate to badges and names, to large societies and dead institutions. Every decent and well-spoken individual affects and sways me more than is right.
I ought to go upright and vital, and speak the rude truth in all ways.

but truth is handsomer than the affectation of love. Your goodness must have some edge to it, — else it is none. The doctrine of hatred must be preached as the counteraction of the doctrine of love when that pules and whines. I shun father and mother and wife and brother, when my genius calls me.

The objection to conforming to usages that have become dead to you is, that it scatters your force. It loses your time and blurs the impression of your character. If you maintain a dead church, contribute to a dead Bible-society, vote with a great party either for the government or against it, spread your table like base housekeepers, — under all these screens I have difficulty to detect the precise man you are. And, of course, so much force is withdrawn from your proper life. But do your work, and I shall know you. Do your work, and you shall reinforce yourself. A man must consider what a blindman’s-buff is this game of conformity. If I know your sect, I anticipate your argument. I hear a preacher announce for his text and topic the expediency of one of the institutions of his church. Do I not know beforehand that not possibly can he say a new and spontaneous word?

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"Standing on the bare ground, my head bathed by the blithe air and uplifted into infinite space,
all mean egotism vanishes.

I become a transparent eyeball;

I am nothing; I see all; the currents of the Universal Being circulate through me;
I am part or parcel of God"

Deef

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the idea that so much of our lives are arbitrary accumulations of a set of rules that dictate our behavior
and I feel like in some ways that’s getting worse
like in the culture I feel like the tribalism is really happening and the cultural signaling is really happening
where you have to identify with the group and if you don’t identify with that group or if you cross the party lines of that group you are seen as a traitor and ousted

so I lived a certain definition of a life that was … and I went into the East Village
because it was a bunch of freaks who thought differently and were true weirdos

there’s something that’s intrinsic to the reptilian brain and to the unconscious
that is always going to be an uncontrolled animal
that’s gonna feel certain things that are irrational and they’re not okay
and whenever we don’t allow that to happen, I think it’s gonna seep out into other ways
whereas like there could be a restructuring of those sort of ideas
where we allowed more creativity and more inclusion to these people
but I think as a society we’re doing more and more is we’re excluding people for being weird in all sorts of ways

this dude’s a drinker and like I’m just gonna let him be what he is
I’m gonna play this character as opposed to the leading man role I’ll get after I’m the lead in this new Netflix change
so I just let him be what he was and I let him be kind of gross
and that was very liberating to actually play, and I actually achieved success as a result of it

so that’s awesome, that I was able to let go of these laws and they liberated me

and I wonder if it’s true for other people, as well

Deef

James Jani does good research and tackles mini docuseries about self-help scams..

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I didn’t know that Napoleon Hill’s personal history was a long series of pure scams.
Now he’s going into Esther Hicks channeled wisdom, law of attraction… feels a lot like Archon territory..

opps he covered Law of Attraction more in part 1 of this series
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Good point he’s just made…. self blame is the go-to answer whenever anyone questions the teachings!
It’s always the user’s fault if they can’t law of attraction to work.

OMG… Jerry Hicks (of Jerry & Esther Hicks) learned the tools of cult programming from being in Amway, they were Crown level distributors in 1979…. that’s like a super mega top top tier level achievement pin. http://abrahamhicksfraud.blogspot.com/p/whats-so-bad-about-esther-and-jerrys.html
https://www.amwaywiki.com/Hicks,_Jerry_%26_Trish

opps it’s even worse, he didn’t build the Amway business, sounds like he married into it?

At the end of the 20th Century, he emerges as a top level Amway seller,
a job inherited from the family of Trish, his wife #4.
https://david-stone-writer.blog/2018/12/05/jerry-hicks-bio/

Deef

This might be a counter to Archon brainwashing. Cultivation of collective spiritual life force, mana.

Onnaloves

“„Your freedom, is only as strong as your Place in the Community ” - nailed it. Sadly for America, we are not all in the canoe together. There is always a bastard rocking the boat and screaming “free will! Anti-masks” been watching my ex friend and getting bored of her predicc semantics of anger. BORED 😑

Deef

Grannon’s recent video on Peterson, Egyptian Gods, and framing of Aeon of Horus, had some parallels with the Archons and spiritual warfare.

This description of Anima, has a lot of common themes with Sophia’s origin story…. and the cloud of illusion is what social media and 24/7 news currently uses, ‘flooding the market with bad signal or information overload’

Anima, she according to Jung and i’m paraphrasing

Squirts her poison cloud of illusion

so there’s this uh squid-like response to the threat
which is to cloud the environment with illusion

so you have this anime animus balance integration polarity and
here we have anima is saving animus with his sword so she picks up the sword the phallus
the well literally the penis that of the corpse and impregnates herself
with this thing we could also say there are elements here to the gnostic story of sophia
so once that’s happened a revival can occur a sort of a new consciousness is born
what’s the best way of reflecting a new consciousness?
you do it through the major lens through which humanity observes which is the eye
and i think it’s of great significance that the young god the new god is represented as a falcon

They Eye of Horus, or all knowing eye.. can be similar to detached observer eye, consciousness, or self-awareness pointers.

Which then can be linked to Jung describing age of Aquarius as moving from water to air element.. and air is about spirit and subtle.. and living spirit having qualities of ambivalence (not taking sides, or non-duality) and union of opposites (yin/yang, third way, or complex systems thinking).

Deef

The present age must come to terms drastically with the facts as they are, with the absolute opposition that is not only tearing the world asunder politically but has planted a schism in the human heart.
We need to find our way back to the original, living spirit which, because of its ambivalence, is also a mediator and uniter of opposites, an idea that preoccupied the alchemists for many centuries.

If, as seems probable, the aeon of the fishes is ruled by the archetypal motif of the hostile brothers,
then the approach of the next Platonic month, namely Aquarius, will constellate the problem of the union of opposites.

It will then no longer be possible to write off evil as the mere privation of good; its real existence will have to be recognized.

This problem can be solved neither by philosophy, nor by economics, nor by politics,
but only by the individual human being, via his experience of the living spirit, whose fire descended upon Joachim, one of many, and, despite all contemporary misunderstandings, was handed onward into the future.
…
Their insistence is, at bottom, the urge of the archetype to realize itself.
-Carl Jung; Aion; Pages 86-87.

"Around the birth of Christ, there follows the Age of Pisces. Pisces is a water sign. That is probably why we have to look for the spirit in the water, in life’s flow of images, and in the unconscious.
And now we are on the threshold of the sign of Aquarius. The air element is assigned to it, and it is symbolized by an angel or a human being, instead of an animal. Here the spirit is meant to become something subtle again, and man to become who he is."
-Carl Jung, Children’s Dreams Seminar, Pages 354-355.

So falling into opposition against the archons, would be continuing age of Pisces, the hostile brothers. The new counter would be union of opposites, and recognizing the real existence of evil. But also a move towards subtle, spirit, and the living spirit… Of which creative life force energy, seems to be similar territory of living spirit. The essence of being embodied individual human beings, is that we can be creative and our physical bodies generate life force.

Deef

1m16s

It’s nothing less than the complete destruction of the human will. That’s the end goal here!

There are things that we need and a relationship with our divine self is part of it
of course you’re lonely that means they’ve done their job

that means the archons are winning because they’re separating us from each other
Well that’s done, they won that one.
Now the final battle is to separate self from self
Why?
because if i can separate you from yourself, and i can make you feel so wretched, exhausted, & tortured with loneliness
You won’t fight for yourself, if you won’t pick up a gun and fight for yourself, Why would you do it for your brothers and sisters?
it’s nothing less than the complete destruction of the human will that’s the end goal here
so you come to me and you say how do i cope with feeling lonely? A coping mechanism?!
You’re in a war, you’re in a spiritual war, you’re a warrior in a war!
so if you feel lonely, that’s a call to arms
that’s a call to as it would be in islam, jihad
which was was always a spiritual war and predominantly with the self & the demons of our lesser nature

Onnaloves

Deef

Mass Psychosis is a framing I’m hearing more often recently, could that be a sign that humanity is losing the spiritual war?

12m38s

A mass psychosis is an epidemic of madness and it

occurs when a large portion of a society loses touch with reality and descends into delusions.

“All one’s neighbours are in the grip of some uncontrolled and uncontrollable fear. . . In lunatic asylums it is a well-known fact that patients are far more dangerous when suffering from fear than when moved by rage or hatred.”

“Once upon a time men were possessed by devils, now they are not less obsessed by ideas. . .”
– Carl Jung, Psychology and Religion

10m35s

“If he controls your ideas he will soon control your actions, because every action is preceded by an idea." –
Silvano Arieti, The Will to Be Human

“We can never be sure that a new idea will not seize either upon ourselves or upon our neighbours. We know from modern as well as from ancient history that such ideas are often so strange, indeed so bizarre, that they fly in the face of reason. The fascination which is almost invariably connected with ideas of this sort produces a fanatical obsession, with the result that all dissenters no matter how well-meaning or reasonable they are, get burnt alive . . .or are disposed of in masses.” – Carl Jung, Psychology and Religion

“To do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he’s doing is good, or else that it’s a well-considered act in conformity with natural law.” – Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago

Nice teaser for his next episode:

In the next video
we will explore how this small group of power-hungry individuals is able
to spread the demon of an authoritarian ideology to the masses at large
and in the process induce the mass psychosis of totalitarianism.

We will explore the techniques that are used for the dissemination of this demon,
the conditions that create fertile ground for its spread and
the role that modern technology plays in this process.

Isn’t the Archons feeding on humanity’s life force a much easier framework??
And they’re exploiting current conditions with mass hyper individualism and atomization, along with social media technology allowing AI programs to spread and repeat fear & paranoia mongering type of ideas (often masked as hope, comfort and self-healing promotions).

Onnaloves

Deef allowing AI programs to spread and repeat fear & paranoia mongering type of ideas (often masked as hope, comfort and self-healing promotions).

Having built the bots that wear the mask of hope, comfort and self healing… I can attest to this. In fact, it’s a tactic within the hacker forums.
the hackers themselves are aware of this, and yet they cannot help themselves, because the competition between them is a numbers game, to see who can climb the highest.
it’s disgusting.
they do not see what they have become.

there is a rule in the hacker forums to not ever mention the names of the cloud software. Because even though they block crawling bots from discovery, it’s a rule in general to not oust anyone.

so it’s interesting to see from the underbelly of the internet, to see how they think as a pathogenic group, who invest in their egos controlling the internet.

there is a ranking system of these hacker forums, which aspires other hackers to be at the top… it’s the antithesis of doing anything for good. But seeing their tactics from within is pretty interesting, as it shows the weakness of the man made internet.

the man made internet is incomplete. It is limited by the psyche of those that created it, it is a direct reflection of those in power of society, how their minds work.

that is not the internet’s fault, that is mans fault. The only way to change it is to go right to the top of control, and restructure the reward system, away from rank, and more rhizomatic.

there are seeds of rhizome internet developing at the moment, and that is where I would look for the future.

Peregrin

Deef Mass Psychosis is a framing I’m hearing more often recently, could that be a sign that humanity is losing the spiritual war?

I’m not owning any truths. But. I have had this thought train running back in my head for some months now.
The answer i get is always: “No! It is the sign of desperation. It is nearing a closure”.

The nearer the truth. The more heaven and earth will turn to keep us in the dark

Whenever Truman Burbank starts to think, and break out of the narrative, something appears in his way.

We are kind of seeing spoons starting to bend both here and there, like for Neo.
And it causes desperation.

Deef

For some reason I’m reminded of the quote

The light at the end of the tunnel is just the light of an oncoming train.

– Robert Lowell

and also this visual