YouTube comments tracker - orig RG Live 4/17/21 promo

Deef

ahhh… finally got some fire… I thought it’d come from the ‘resentment is the new power’ culture war critique, but it came from Grannon’s Wrestling with harsh truths video..

AP called me Asian, short and rude… and told me to shut up!

But, then he deleted the comment??? What’s with YT commenters self policing themselves?
Granted yes, I have power to delete comments and block users, so maybe that’s it?

Oh.. and I’m Asian within a #stopasianhate movement, so do I get more leeway?
Is he scared of mob social judgment?

Oh Yah, another surprise, Grannon commented on the Resentment is the new Power video, so I guess he’s a subscriber on my channel?? dude… hmm… so I could put new stuff up and he has higher chance of watching it?

Onnaloves

Deef ahhh omg I just figured out why you keep saying ppl are policing their own comments…

they are not.

YouTube algorithm has enabled them to carry on dumping and leaving shit, but they are not informed that the algorithm has semantically filtered the comment so it no longer appears on your channel.

on my last channel, I used to block users so they lost the ability to comment, it was a hideous task. I still do it. I give them warning with public shaming then block them from commenting and used to leave the shame in public view to aquire votes and pin it.

but, with 5 million views, it was a daily drain. Now I get the same bullshit. And I block them still. Except YT hasn’t figured out I don’t want those viewers because it makes money by sending like minds who love writing 🍑

🍑 and certain emojis are automatically blocked by YouTube. I don’t even get to find them in my spam comments filter to block them. YT enables them and hides them from me. So viewers get to be dirty, I get burned from the notification, and YT is not protecting me from filthy people.

Fryek

yeah, youtube is raw, uncensored stupid… people just say any ole shit that comes to mind… and maybe they think “oops someone might read this” later and remove it (though i like onnalove’s explanation better… not likely that these people are SELF censoring)… not cuz they notice that what they’ve written is stupid and horrible and should have been censored when they fucking thought it, let alone typed it… that it should have been something that made them stop and say “hmm… why am i venting like this at someone else, what is my trigger here?”… but no, they’re just worried about being called out for what they are - stupid, unaware, bigoted, etc.

they just want to hear a polite non-group session of their holy warrior Richard speak the truth to them! Give us a polite dialogue where it’s not a group setting, you don’t have to watch people navigate Zoom to get their thoughts out… simple, hero-worship time… ahh… there we go… where’s my security blanket… curl up and watch Richard and his funny asian friend make sense of it all… not that rude, real world jumble of folks trying to discuss in a group dynamics clusterfuck, getting in the way of our beloved Richard!

vomit… fuck youtube… fuck fakebook, instalame, all that shit… it’s the worst of society.

Onnaloves

Fryek vomit… fuck youtube… fuck fakebook, instalame, all that shit… it’s the worst of society.

Ah. Le sigh 😔 poor you blaming all platforms.

Deef

Fryek “hmm… why am i venting like this at someone else, what is my trigger here?”

This might be a good point, social media platforms are a virtual trigger fest… downside is that once people get triggered, there’s no one on other end to reflect back with. Or they just move onto the next trigger, to cover up the past trigger..

It’s collecting tons of unconscious triggers from the masses, then just responding with feelings of abandonment and void.. leaving people’s deep shadow material hungry and yearning….

then it spills onto society…. with more mass protests and mob rule….

brilliant…. algorithms…. the archons are fucking powerful… vicious.. evil…. robotic… amazing…

Deef

Lilly’s comment to my Resentment is the NEW power is amazing example of terrible logic. That’s part of what I love about Kevin Samuel’s back and forth with women. He is amazing at pointing out the ridiculousness of their arguments, but it’s more of a mind fuck that the women still dig in and keep trying to make shit up to justify some ‘the world should be’ type of extremely self centered logic, baring their giant idiotic blindspot to the world.. But they’re totally oblivious..

Her magic slogan, end goal, and ideal aim:

This all ends when everyone says NO

lol…. what a totally divorced from reality statement…. Say NO to what?? and to whom? Floating agency going on here. Also so fucking what, you say no, and the people in power, kill you? take away your job? tax you to death?
Then what?? how powerful is your boundary setting nonsense??? Saying no??

Gotta have some leverage behind that No… not just some utopian dream of self governing, everyone doing their part, contributing… well.. who’s gonna enforce and make sure everyone is doing their part?? Who’s in control of the ‘self governing’ part??? everyone said no to authority, right???

We’re in a very sad state of affairs, when so many people think like this and make silly arguments like this… what a waste of human creativity, imagination and thinking…. Archons are winning…

Onnaloves

Deef ahahahahahahaha yup perfect. I like Fryek response too.
and this is a common thing I see, those exact mindsets that follow Grannon en mass. They are reinforcing their emotional belief system using him. They are not learning, not interacting. It would be funny if a hundred people saw her and replied NO. But she would emotionally feel validated by No votes, not realizing that people see her dislogic.

i found it funny that you mentioned women do this… because men do this too, but express it differently. They won’t waste their efforts here on Grannons videos so much, they waste their dislogic more on women’s videos like DiscociaDID.

Grannon has become a god-like figure for the disordered, particularly women.

Fryek

Just say NO to Lilly!

Deef

Deef 4/17/21 Richard Grannon Live Part 2

Some excerpts

11s

2m0s

Deef

There’s an an unusual back and forth in Youtube comments section of this video clip I just released

2m56s

Seems pretty clear his message is trying to break the guru worship projection of the youtube comment followers.. but they still spin it into guru worship??

Fryek

yeah… me thinks I’ll just stay outta that thread… lots people speaking for richard… about richard, of richard, and so many just need someone else to worship, to lead them, to tell them what to think… and on some level, this is exactly what richard is selling, but he doesn’t want to own up to it… don’t blame him, but it is the commonly understood side effect of celebrity.

we LOVE celebrities, heroes, leaders, scapegoats… sorry Richard… you can run, but you cannot hide… cannot have it both ways.

Deef

Fryek we LOVE celebrities, heroes, leaders, scapegoats…

I’d argue that western society worships celebrities and popular people in the absence of organized religion….. celebrities are now our religious dieties, to both project our idealized god projections, but also as scapegoats to dump our negative shadows…

The thing is though, the celebrities also have a lose situation too!! As their humanity isn’t been seen by the public, and they slowly can’t trust anyone because everyone is after their fame or access….

Worse with youtube celebrities, cuz they’re underpaid or have to keep hustling… once they get popular it’s not like they can start charging more for advertising or get higher residuals… probably technically possible, but it’s a bit more complicated than movie stars, sports athletes, musicians, etc..

I’m guessing that social media exaggerates the ability to project both ways… audience onto whatever guru… but also for the guru to read too much into fans, and way easily read too much into criticism….

Comments have slowed a bit for Grannon Live pt2 video… but this came in, weirdly specific about 37 minutes of torture for Katy….. poor girl… she missed the intentional escalation challenge/sparring time, when I specifically tried to shit on Grannon’s core themes… I wonder she would take that??

More shocking is Shannon giving props to Allie… wow… people do just want to hear tone that sounds peaceful and comforting….

My contrarian nature wants to do more of what people are upset about… background music… interrupting people.. never ever let a person finish… become a cut-off master…. leave people always wanting more…

But that’s still pretty mild….. I could start SJW culture war bullshit like Claudia B played out… giving people mind fucks and double binds… pull out some Cathy Newman tactics… ’so you’re saying’ distorted unfair reframes…. tsk tsk…

So… our group exposed that Grannon is a human being??? that’s why I like him, he’s genuine….

But he’s given way more embarrassing interviews in the past…

Like this one where he got totally talked over, run over, dismissed, ignored… by Stefan Molyneux… possibly Narcissistic or just one track pitch salesman… been a while since I’ve seen it… but this is an example of Grannon’s codependence and weak verbal sparring skills.

1h46m

Fryek

OMG… such clueless fucks… classic populist, lowest common denominator garbage… love them youtubers!

Deef

Reading comments can distort my perception of Grannon’s opinion and experience with us..

I do recall he specifically said he wanted to be invited again and enjoyed the experience at the end the meeting (that’s on the recording too). Also in the middle he specifically suggested us reaching out to Sam Vaknin and that Sam would enjoy our format.

Plus here’s some back and forth emails, where I warn him about a chaotic group, and he said he doesn’t mind, I also inform him about background music, which he didn’t respond either way…

And afterwards he said he really liked the organic format and it brought out some good stuff from him

Deef

This thread is now shifting into youtube comment analysis thread…

Just released some clips from Sat’s zoom… this clip got an interesting comment

3m11s

Looks pretty innocent on the surface, encouraging, validating, etc..

BUT, within the context of the video…
I was pointing out Debbie’s defenses against anxiety, which she ended up doing all 4 variations.
And the message was that people get lost in defenses to manage anxiety, and never get to core content… raw emotions.

So this comment is a projection, her cheer leading an avatar in the video. Along with superego injunctions to validate , reward and encourage victimhood, but masked with language of empowerment..

But…. it’s reinforcing external validation and external locus of control….
However, if the victim can own their pain and core content, switch to more of a survivor stance, then they also can start self regulating and self-validating themselves.

However, as is common in zoom groups, and apparently also in YT comments section….. other members get triggered by their own anxiety and emotional hunger… and once they see someone else start getting close to core content.. they can’t help but rescue and smother any chance of an authentic emotional experience….. (terror of negative emotions)

1m42s

Deef

This is a pretty impressive back and forth @Onnaloves some clever counters, though dunno if they’ll hit a brick wall… He seems to have some really big giant blind spots and really weird logic patterns..

I love the intro… there must be context i’m missing…
But let me take a strong black and white stance, while openly admitting that I’m working with limited information….
Then a typical argument from someone with huge gigantic blindspots that they’re totally oblivious too.. Every action I do or others do have conscious intent. Intent is all that matters, because I’m assuming I have NO blindspots, I just claim to have agency. lol

This next opener is even more amazing… I am COMPLETELY confident that …
ok… where’s your proof behind this very strong stance??? (opps it’s just an unsubstantiated claim)

re: twisting questions
I personally don’t have to spend that much energy to twist questions into ulterior motives… (though I struggled to get a good double bind last Saturday??) But apparently for him, he can’t consciously twist emotions into motives outside of trying to defend his beliefs, identity and world view… (which I also pointed this out in this SHORT 2m16s clip!)..

re: lacking explanation
The description in the video has a link to the full 2 hour recording with more explanation…

re: attacking my logic & references
etymology is a very precise semantical argument …. and it wasn’t vague, it’s right in the chart, look up the etymology yourself if you’re arguing it’s vague..

re: logical fallacies
relabelling it as linguistic pedantry is a sloppy ad-hominem attack… and then comparing it to actual analysis, when he hasn’t modeled any analysis of his counter positions or claims… is just window dressing non-sense…
….
Juliana’s most recent comment did have some pretty impressive counters, indirectly pointing out his shadow and blindspot… I doubt it will get through.. but it’s better than what I could do…

My reaction would be to point out his giant logical holes and frame jumps and probably just stay keep trying to expose and ridicule…. (that probably wouldn’t work well in comments section)

comments from this video
2m16s

Onnaloves

Deef recent comment did have some pretty impressive counters, indirectly pointing out his shadow and blindspot… I doubt it will get through.. but it’s better than what I could do…

Ahhhhhhh I’m basking. Your column of conversation communication style REALLY SNAPPED ME INTO PRACTICE. For I am deluged with questions for emotional supply of men. They have zero idea that I am asked the same thing over by a hundred different men. That’s how I know my anxiety becomes intolerable! I did not want to be summoned interrogated and bled dry.
I have difficulty with ANY SOCIAL SETTING. So Grannon taught me something. It’s hard for me to grasp.
all I wanted to know is why I disliked him. But that is a question for me not him, however, I did not know where to look in myself for the answer.
the commenter who asked ““what’s wrong with questions” started witb a useful question. But then twisted it for his own supply. Then I was done.

lololol. He twisted it by drifting topic to make a manipulative discourse that questions were not abusive, because he does not see how he therefore abuses others. Questions are interrogation, and you have to ask yourself do you have the right to ask?

so now I know how to use questions to fuck someone up hehehe. Let’s play the next game in the comments section. I’m gonna have a blast

Onnaloves

Woooot wooot I’ll take that compliment but I have to go over that again to reinforce I actually learned it. My problem is it’s easier using the screen and words because I am speaking with tempo from my fingers and it’s more controlled than the connection to speak from paths that are not working on my brain. Going back to re-read this.

Deef

Comment stream slowing down today…

But the Grannon clip where he’s honest about not caring about individuals, triggered a few comments…

Petros here makes a personal attack… this feels like a common argument, how dare you make such any claim???!!
(other variations, you’re overconfident, you can’t know everything, you’re so certain!)

This comment is more honest and direct, but either the algorithms deleted it, or he deleted it.

And this is some weird ad-hominem.. exaggerates him saying the same thing…. distortion of hers, and what’s wrong with being consistent?

Then spinning on attacking the YT algorithms bringing up Vaknin suggestions into her feed…
Then blame the academic authors that he’s referencing… ad hominem on them being BPD? what’s the logic there?
Borderline - what a beautiful name that’s a weird insert?

She implies that Vaknin said borderlines are repetitive… and then equates that to him…
but there’s no repetitive critique in the actual clip. Here’s the transcript of the 1m33s Vaknin clip she commented on.

the borderline patient initially turns towards the object with insatiable need
eventually she feels rejected and then she rejects the object in turn and then she fears object loss
so the borderline is clingy and needy
she appropriates confiscates and adopts an outside external object, could be the twin flame
then she anticipates rejection; real or imaginary and then she rejects the object
and then she fears that she had lost the object

so Seinfeld says the borderline is primarily concerned with destroying the object through aggressive decency

if you’re more of a borderline you’re likely gradually to become aggressive
and the relationship will become more and more conflict-laden
it will involve approach avoidance
there will be a lot of tension a lot of dissonance
they will retreat more and more into your mind
you will preemptively reject the object you will decompensate you will act directly recklessly
for example promiscuously and so on
so if you’re borderline you will become a secondary psychopath you will react with aggression

these are not my words this is Hartmann and Seinfeld

Mariam doesn’t seem to be fitting into the aggressive decency language style.. however she seems triggered and just raging recklessly at an imaginary projection…. pretty impressive that a 1m33s video can do that to a person?

Deef

Deef
Petros here makes a personal attack… this feels like a common argument, how dare you make such any claim???!!
(other variations, you’re overconfident, you can’t know everything, you’re so certain!)

Grannon responds to Petros here!!! lol

So he’s jumping into the comment cest pool, along with tracking some of my videos to see the 2 day later comment by Petros..

I wonder… if the comments section is it’s own form of psychological crack??? but what’s the desire?? I don’t get much hit from positive comments… negative comments are a bit irky…. I suppose I am driven towards genuine questions or information seeking… maybe that’s what the draw is???

I wonder….. if he might also be lurking around as a visitor here in the public sections??? hmm… should we be complimentary about him in the public sections?? yikes… hmm….

(btw.. if we’re overly critical about Grannon, it’s just us attacking our projected avatar of him.. not him personally.. we barely even see or recognize the real Grannon behind the online persona!!)

Onnaloves

Deef well I’m kinda glad he’s monitoring his effect on his fallout using the extremists dumping on your channel.
i understood straight away petulant pedros didn’t like Grannon because he has a fragile ego himself. I didn’t like Grannon and I know why now, but he’s right, not only does he ““not apply to me” but there was something about him I felt he was being irresponsible for.
when you grow a large following as I have done, in the past for two reasons, one intent was pure, the other was to feed my hyper sexuality. The pure intent ((to be seen by my daughters) remains stable. The hypersexual hidden raging heat and desire perpetuated through hypersexual me, was keeping me trapped and growing a cultish signature of followers.
i do not want to be a cult leader. This is what agreived me so much about Grannon - because that’s what I see him doing. You can only grow a cult if you understand the cult headspace. Which to me meant that he was Borderline.
i ask questions to see the traps I fall into. When I am disliking someone, I am looking for the traps I fall into. Right now I’m indifferent, I don’t care anymore. And I can thank him for that ““if it doesn’t apply to you why worry?” Brilliant disclaimer. Helped me a lot.
seeing his degassing in the comments was pleasing.

Deef

Deef comment by Petros..

wow… Juliana was able to make friends and somewhat flip Petros… more patience than I have…

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