Onnaloves to learn about socializing
practice group immersion and dynamics of being able to recognise everyone
Yupā¦ this might be whatās inherently missing with youtube and social media platforms.. this new dynamic is interaction with avatars and projectionsā¦ building a wrong muscle of mental projections and recordings, but actual physical relationship is with all digital interfacesā¦ naturally ungrounded and not in touch w/ realityā¦
So, the initial surge of attention from Grannonās recommendation has died down after 2-2.5 days.
These stats need to catch up a more, as itās total of 3066 views now, with 65 likes, and 1 dislike.. and 31 comments..
The watch time is probably more accurate for genuine viewers, so maybe 300 viewers who watched at least half, would be a generous estimate.
Then what impact or benefit did I get from this tiny slice of youtube time and attention?
Maybe a handful of extra visits to the forum, no new signups on meetupā¦ and +28 extra subscribers, but subscribing is cheapā¦
Soā¦. Youtube platform might not really offer much as far as a community platformā¦. just as a video hosting service.. itās fucking amazing, itās free and unlimited storage.. Iām also guessing thereās also no ads for the free hosting..
maybe it could be used as a medium to provide something for public serviceā¦. share expertise.. or niche or somethingā¦ but itād be hard not get caught up in the stats, or then the hunger of both the audience and algorithmsā¦ just wanting more and more contentā¦ or at least that seems to be the feel of the platform along with the group normsā¦
veering off into a bit too much free association modeā¦. but I think I was trying to get close to this weird relationship dynamic of online videosā¦ it feels highly intimate, because youāre seeing and hearing another person that feels like he/she is talking directly to youā¦ but itās also highly empty and isolatingā¦ thereās is no actual relationship.. and thereās no physical person on the other sideā¦ itās a recordingā¦
It encourages both sides to project their own unconscious crap onto the virtual avatar, a stretch of oneās empathy and perspective takingā¦. and then the algorithms and whatever else that drives traffic to certain videos, that dictates the group norms and bridge between all the various virtual empathic predictive models for shared communicationā¦
Grannon captured this in the 2nd disclaimer from this clip
1m41s
iām not speaking to anybody personally
i canāt do that, iām not psychic, there are many people here.
So who am i speaking to?
iām kind of speaking to a simulation of my assessment of a group of problems and a group of people
with a certain set of problems that show up again and again
and my simulation will be off at times because i am only human
and sometimes it just wonāt apply to you, it canāt. All of it canāt apply to you to a nicety into a nuance.
if you hear me saying something that it seems to be to you because youāre looking at my face and
iām talking to the screen
itās not to you
itās to a simulation that iām running of a group of people
who knows how many people will come across this video and watch it in the end
This feels like itās close to describing an inherent relationship flaw within youtube and social media. It encourages simulations of the other, and the feedback is distorted and flattenedā¦ so both sides canāt adjust and get into a good rhythm with each other.
Then because of that systemic issue, people end up being drawn to certain groups based on whatever random commonality factor, popular appeal, or shared struggle; that whatever that channelās content draws in and keeps together..
The platform is what is it isā¦ good for certain ways of interactionā¦.
My question is whether the platform gets in the way of healing from codependence. It might by itās inherent design nature, encourage shared fantasy and building another fawn self (virtual avatar).. Then it rewards people with simulated intimacy from an infinite distance with virtual blocking tools.
This environment is too distant and safe, and strengthens false selfā¦ how can there be any healing or growth from codependence with this??? Itās encouraging cowardice, self deception, other deception, fantasy, hiding, thin skinnedness, and also hardened shell closed heartedness..
and this is just a more neutral analysis of the system design and current layoutā¦ thatās not considering the current group norms of themes, common interactions, nature of comments interactionsā¦. from PierreXOās recent rants, Iām suspecting that things have gotten much more toxic and paranoid over the past few yearsā¦
Anywayā¦. back to focus on healing and growing out of codependencyā¦ and Iām still leaning on the solution being in the area of death to false self.. the codependent self needs to die, or be torn apartā¦. rock bottom, pain and trauma is the way to ego death, and portal to rebirthā¦ renewal, soul emergenceā¦
But few will want to go this path.. society is offering too many distractions and reinforcement to stay codependentā¦
